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Jul 2023, at 21.32, Toke Lahti <<a href="mailto:toke@iki.fi" class="">toke@iki.fi</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Mulla on tässä nyt sama homma.<div class="">Äsken gmailista lähetetty maili näkyy ikin "www posti -varapostilaatikkossa”, mutta ei päämäärässä joka on <a href="http://gmx.com/" class="">gmx.com</a>.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Ei kai tässä kukaan voi mitään tehdä?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">t<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 2. Jul 2023, at 21.53, Matti Nuortio <<a href="mailto:matti.nuortio@pp1.inet.fi" class="">matti.nuortio@pp1.inet.fi</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class=""><br class="">Terves taas, kaikki.<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Tilanne on siis se, että <a href="http://iki.fi/" class="">iki.fi</a> Laatikossa on viestejä, jotka eivät tule perille lopulliseen palveluntarjoajan osoitteeseeni, eli Fjordmailin <a href="http://inet.fi/" class="">inet.fi</a>. Lähettäjä ~~> IKI ry ~~> Inet-postilaatikko ketjusta jää täsmälleen tuo viimeinen lenkki pois.<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Tero Kivinen:<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">Fjordmail tuntuu hoitavan asioita aika huonosti ja ko palvelu ei toimi iki:n kanssa järkevästi.<br class="">Hyvin monia posteja tulee jäämään hukkaan jos jatkat fjordmailin ja iki:n käyttöä. Tuosta<br class="">on jopa uutinen iki:n etusivulla:<br class=""></blockquote><br class=""><br class="">Näinpäs näkyy olevan. Ei kai tässä muu auta kuin valmistella postiosoitteen vaihto heti. Ja siirtymäajan yli väijyä Laatikkoa koko ajan. Onpa hankalaksi maailma laitettu.<br class=""><br class="">Eli ehkä tätä pidetään ratkaistuna ja ratkaisu on se, että hommaan uuden palveluntarjoajan. Vaihdan sitten uuden osoitteen <a href="http://iki.fi/" class="">iki.fi</a> kohdesähköpostiksi.<br class=""><br class="">Jatketaanpa tässä sitten uudella kysymyksellä. IKIn palveluntarjoaja-sivulla oli maininta Protonmailista, mutta ei Tutanotasta. Tiedetäänkö Tutanotasta mitään erityistä suuntaan tai toiseen? Hyvää tai pahaa? Oletuksena tietysti se, että Tutanotaa aiotaan käyttää IKIn kohdesähköpostina.<br class=""><br class="">Entäs vielä sellainen vähän kierteelle rullailtu tilanne, että otetaan käyttöön domain-hotellista ostetut omat osoitteet? Ja siispä säädetään A-record/MX-record itse, mutta taustalla varsinaisen sähköpostin infrastruktuurina toimii kuitenkin Tutanotasta ostettu palvelu. Käsittääkseni tällainen on mahdollista ja tietyt Tutanotasta ostettavissa olevat palvelutasot sallivat sen.<br class=""><br class="">Onko tässä joitakin sudenkuoppia? Muuttuuko asia varmemmin tai vähemmän varmasti toimivaksi IKIn kannalta?<br class=""><br class="">Kiitoksia vielä sekä Terolle että Tokelle asiaan reagoimisesta. Jos on jotain kommenttia, minkä takia tuota asiaa ei kannatakaan vielä hätäisesti pitää ratkaistuna, niin laittakaa vain tulemaan. Kuulostaa kyllä vähän siltä, että Fjordmail ei tuosta paremmaksi muutu.<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">terveisin<br class="">Matti N.<br class="">IKI-osoitteen haltija, perusjäsen<br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">IKI-aktivistit mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:IKI-aktivistit@listat.iki.fi" class="">IKI-aktivistit@listat.iki.fi</a><br class=""><a href="https://listat.iki.fi/mailman/listinfo.cgi/iki-aktivistit" class="">https://listat.iki.fi/mailman/listinfo.cgi/iki-aktivistit</a><br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>